Drums -> | 1978-10-21 | Grateful Dead

View NotesPatch Info:
AKG D224E -> Cassette Master -> Reel -> Reel -> MiniMe -> CD supplies:
Sugaree (11:40 - 12:54)
He's Gone (7:41 - 9:58)
Stella Blue (10:18 - end of track)
Sugar Magnolia (0:00 - 0:21)

Notes:
-- All disc changes are seamless
-- Some in between song tuning supplied by shnid=6100
-- Numerous spots of diginoise in I Need A Miracle patched with shnid=6100
-- Many flaws cleaned up
-- Dat was labled SBD -> Master Reel -> PCM -> Dat which is wrong
-- Patch material supplied by Pat Lee and transferred by Matt Smith
-- Patch was recorded by Reinhart Holwein on a Sony TC-158 cassette deck
-- Lee Oskar plays harmonica on Drums through Got My Mojo Workin' and Sugar Mags

SOURCE 2 OF 11

3:19:05

SBD

gd1978-10-21.mtx.seamons.94852.sbeok.flac16

Source:

Matrix mix (SBD/AUD)

Taper Notes:

View Notes***30th Anniversary Matrix*** 

----------------------------------------------------
SBD:

Recording Info:
SBD -> Master Reel -> Reel -> Dat (44.1k)

Transfer Info:
Dat (Sony R500) -> Sound Devices 744T -> Samplitude Professional v9.12 -> FLAC
(3 Discs Audio / 2 Discs FLAC)

All Transfers and Mastering By Charlie Miller
[email protected]
January 28, 2008

[Cuts:]

Sugaree (11:40 - 12:54)
He's Gone (7:41 - 9:58)
Stella Blue (10:18 - end of track)
Sugar Magnolia (0:00 - 0:21)

Notes:
-- All disc changes are seamless
-- Some in between song tuning supplied by shnid=6100
-- Numerous spots of diginoise in I Need A Miracle patched with shnid=6100
-- Many flaws cleaned up

----------------------------------------------------
AUD:

MOTB Release: 0015 16/44.
Release Date: 2008-09-25
Analog Audience Source: Aud Master Cassettes (MAC)
Medium Stock Brands: MAC = 3 x Maxell UDXL II
Analog Lineage: 2 x  AKG d224e => Sony TC 158 >> MAC
Analog Sound Preservation: MAC >> Nakamichi CR7a => Korg MR-1000 >> DSF [1-bit 5.6448 MHz Stereo] >> Korg MR-1000 => Korg AudioGate >> WAV [24/96]
Taped By: Reinhart Hohlwein
Transfer By: Bob Menke 
Mastering By: Derek McCabe
Tagged by: Jeff Thomas
Special: Rhinotrocity #5

[Cuts:]

"He's Gone" patched at 3:43 - 4:07
"Stella Blue" patched at 0:03 - 0:12
"Sugar Magnolia" patched at 7:44 - 8:24

---------------------------------------------------
Thank you to Charlie Miller for the SBD transfer,
to Reinhart Hohlwein for recording the show,
and to Bob Menke, Derek McCabe, and Jeff Thomas for the AUD transfer.

Matrix by Hunter Seamons using Final Cut Pro (FLAC>AIFF>Final Cut>WAV>FLAC) 
September 28, 2008

Notes:

1) There were occasional, brief "phasing" sounds in the SBD, yet not in the AUD, particularly during Hamza el Din Song #1, Promised Land (and after the song), and I Need a Miracle. Most of this seems to be from Miller's patching of the source with SHNID 6100, which sounded differently when mixed with the AUD, or on it's own.

2) There is a noticeable tonal shift in the AUD during Hamza el Din Song #1 from the mic being moved around.

3) There were cuts in the SBD and AUD between songs, whereupon only one source plays in the matrix.

4) Interestingly, Lee Oskar's harp is more audible on the AUD than the SBD, which is good.

5) As noted above, unfortunate cuts in the AUD right after a stellar Other One and a raging Sugar Magnolia, so the roaring crowd is just a little low during those parts. Cut in the AUD for the tail end of the recording as well.

SOURCE 3 OF 11

gd1978-10-21.sbd.nugs.21248.sbeok.flac16

Source:

SBD>Master Reel>Cassette>DAT>WAV

Taper Notes:

View NotesDespite some minor flaws, this is the best representation of what went
down at Winterland in October of 1978 (short of an official Vault
release which we can only hope for). All five shows come from
soundboard sources of varying degrees of quality. Some sets are
spliced together from various sources, with an audience patch at the
end of 10/21/78 Stella Blue. There are some cuts due to cassette
flips.

Special thanks to dug for the sources.

SOURCE 4 OF 11

gd78-10-21.sbd.popi.6100.sbeok.shnf

Source:

Soundboard

Lineage:

sbd> mr> dats> wav> shn

Taper Notes:

View Notessbd> mr> dats> wav> shn; dat> wav> shn by popi n. feeldz from Michael Grossman DAT seed; see info file for flaw and patch notes

SOURCE 5 OF 11

Scott Clugston and Charlie Miller

SHNID:

gd1978-10-21.148355.1p.2.sony.ecm270.severson.miller.clugston.flac2496

Source:

Mark Severson's Master Audience Cassettes; Sony ECM-270 mics > Sony TC-158SD > 1st generation cassettes

Lineage:

1st generation cassettes (Nakamichi CR7-A)> Tascam DA-3000 (DSF 1-bit/5.6 MHz) > dBpoweramp 24/96 > Adobe Audition CC 2019 > TLH flac2496

Taper Notes:

View NotesNotes:
- Thanks to Mark Severson for the 1st generation cassettes
- Thanks to Charlie Miller for the transfer and coordinating this effort
- Thanks to the MOTB folks for the shnid94600 (FOB) AKG S224E source which supplies a 0:09 patch in "Looks Like Rain", a 0:23 patch in "He's Gone", as well as a 0:14 patch in "Stella Blue"
- "Space" & "Got My Mojo Workin'" with Lee Oskar on harmonica
- Pitch corrected
- Unfortunately, Mark's masters of both the Egypt and Winterland run of shows were stolen. This is Mark's "car copy" he made which comprises highlights from the 1st set and the 2nd set in its entirety

Mastered by Scott Clugston
November 2019

SOURCE 6 OF 11

Scott Clugston and Charlie Miller

SHNID:

gd1978-10-21.148354.1p.2.sony.ecm270.severson.miller.clugston.flac1648

Source:

Mark Severson's Master Audience Cassettes; Sony ECM-270 mics > Sony TC-158SD > 1st generation cassettes

Lineage:

1st generation cassettes (Nakamichi CR7-A)> Tascam DA-3000 (DSF 1-bit/5.6 MHz) > dBpoweramp 24/96 > Adobe Audition CC 2019 > TLH flac2496

Taper Notes:

View NotesNotes:
- Thanks to Mark Severson for the 1st generation cassettes
- Thanks to Charlie Miller for the transfer and coordinating this effort
- Thanks to the MOTB folks for the shnid94600 (FOB) AKG S224E source which supplies a 0:09 patch in "Looks Like Rain", a 0:23 patch in "He's Gone", as well as a 0:14 patch in "Stella Blue"
- "Space" & "Got My Mojo Workin'" with Lee Oskar on harmonica
- Pitch corrected
- Unfortunately, Mark's masters of both the Egypt and Winterland run of shows were stolen. This is Mark's "car copy" he made which comprises highlights from the 1st set and the 2nd set in its entirety

Mastered by Scott Clugston
November 2019

SOURCE 7 OF 11

gd1978-10-21.166112.aud.remaster.acetboy.flac1644

Source:

This is a remaster of the Reinhart Hohlwein shn #94600 by acetboy

Taper Notes:

View NotesThis is a remaster of shn #94600.
When 94600 was created there was no other audience source for patching.
So they used the soundboard.  There is an alternative audience recording now.
So I have used shn #102074 for the 3 patches. This is the info for that share:
============================
Recorded by:
Mike Martin and Mark Bunton.
Our location was on the floor under the mirrored ball about 20-25 feet from the stage dead center.

Equipment:
2 Sony ecm-280 microphones (shoulder high) > Teac PC-10 w/ Dolby > TDK SA-C90 tape

Transfer:
Nakamichi CR3A w/ Dolby > Audigy 4 Pro @ 24/44.1 > Editing with NERO > Tracked With CD Wave  > Flac (level 8)
============================

Thanks to the taper and the MOTB people and all who bring this stuff to share.
And the people who shared shn #102074.

All of the work I do is in ocenaudio and Harrison Mixbus.
Everything I do is basically about levels.  Keeping them the same in both channels
throughout the frequency range.  When I speak of levels I mean RMS levels.  Average levels.
I also tighten up phase issues when needed. Clear up any gaps that may be found.
If original files are high res, I have done most of the work at the higher sample frequency
and bit depths.  Then towards the end I've converted to 44.1 16 bit.

About the screen grabs:

One can not see everything I do in these images but it shows something about
how the audio has changed between before and after.

If I'm working from high res files the before FFT and Spectral images look
quite a bit different inherently.  But you can still see how they differ otherwise.

acetboy 2023-10-21

SOURCE 8 OF 11

3:27:03

Taper:

Mike Martin and Mark Bunton

Transferrer:

Mike Martin

SHNID:

gd1978-10-21.sonyecm280.martin-bunton.102075.flac24

Source:

Two Sony ecm-280 microphones (shoulder high) > Teac PC-10 w/ Dolby > TDK SA-C90 tape

Lineage:

Nakamichi CR3A w/ Dolby > Audigy 4 Pro @ 24/44.1 > Editing with NERO > Tracked With CD Wave > Flac (level 8)

Taper Notes:

View NotesThe tape was flipped during Drums (disc 3 track 1 at 9:46).
The tape was again flipped in the Sugar Magnolia > Sunshine Daydream transition.
To fill in the missing section 5 seconds from an alternate source recorded by Reinhart Hohlwein  (disc 3 track 7 from 0:01 to 0:06) was inserted.
These breaks were spliced together with NERO wave editor.
NERO wave editor was also used to make volume adjustments and to surgically remove distracting ôclapsö one at a time.
Finally the FLAC conversion was performed at level 8.
As a note, the Sony ecm-280 cardiod microphone specification page describes the frequency response as 30 to 18KHz.
No Eq or Noise reduction used.
There is a slight fluttering noise in the master cassettes during the quieter sections.
Thanks to John Musgrave for the use of his recording equipment.

SOURCE 9 OF 11

Mike Martin;Mark Bunton

Transferrer:

Mike Martin

SHNID:

gd1978-10-21.sonyecm280.martin-bunton.102074.flac16

Source:

Recorded by: Mike Martin and Mark Bunton. Our location was on the floor under the mirrored ball about 20-25 feet from the stage dead center. Equipment: 2 Sony ecm-280 microphones (shoulder high) > Teac PC-10 w/ Dolby > TDK SA-C90 tape.

Lineage:

Nakamichi CR3A w/ Dolby > Audigy 4 Pro @ 24/44.1 > Editing with NERO > Tracked With CD Wave > Dithered to 16 bit with Audacity > Flac (level 8)

Taper Notes:

View NotesThe tape was flipped during Drums (disc 3 track 1 at 9:46).
The tape was again flipped in the Sugar Magnolia > Sunshine Daydream transition.
To fill in the missing section 5 seconds from an alternate source recorded by Reinhart Hohlwein  (disc 3 track 7 from 0:01 to 0:06) was inserted.
These breaks were spliced together with NERO wave editor.
NERO wave editor was also used to make volume adjustments and to surgically remove distracting 'claps' one at a time.
Finally Audacity was used to dither the files to 16 bit and the FLAC conversion was performed at level 8.
As a note, the Sony ecm-280 cardiod microphone specification page describes the frequency response as 30 to 18KHz.
No Eq or Noise reduction used.
There is a slight fluttering noise in the master cassettes during the quieter sections.
Thanks to John Musgrave for the use of his recording equipment.
Thanks to Bill Fridl for the permission to use his nice photos from these shows
Mike Martin September 2009


Pictures - 1978 Bill Fridl.
For more Information visit: http://www.grateful-dead-photos.com/shows.html

SOURCE 10 OF 11

Bob Menke and Derek McCabe and Jeff Thomas

SHNID:

gd1978-10-21.aud.rhinotrocity5.motb-0015.94600.flac24

Source:

2 x AKG d224e => Sony TC 158 => 3 x Maxell UDXL II

Lineage:

Master Cassette => Nakamichi CR7a => Korg MR-1000 >> DSF [1-bit 5.6448 MHz Stereo] >> Korg MR-1000 => Korg AudioGate >> WAV [24/96]

Taper Notes:

View NotesMastering Notes:
Three patches were applied using the following source: gd78-10-21.sbd.miller.89721.flac16

"He's Gone" patched at 3:43 - 4:07
"Stella Blue" patched at 0:03 - 0:12
"Sugar Magnolia" patched at 7:44 - 8:24

SOURCE 11 OF 11

Bob Menke and Derek McCabe and Jeff Thomas

SHNID:

gd1978-10-21.aud.rhinotrocity5.motb-0015.94599.flac16

Source:

2 x AKG d224e => Sony TC 158 >> 3 x Maxell UDXL II

Lineage:

Master Cassette >> Nakamichi CR7a => Korg MR-1000 >> DSF [1-bit 5.6448 MHz Stereo] >> Korg MR-1000 => Korg AudioGate >> WAV [24/96]

Taper Notes:

View NotesMastering Notes:
Three patches were applied using the following source: gd78-10-21.sbd.miller.89721.flac16

"He's Gone" patched at 3:43 - 4:07
"Stella Blue" patched at 0:03 - 0:12
"Sugar Magnolia" patched at 7:44 - 8:24