Drums > | 1985-03-28 | Grateful Dead

View NotesNotes:
- Thanks to Dick Latvala for the transfer of the master vault cassettes and 1st generation cassettes, Rob Eaton for the 1st generation cassette > DAT (16/48) transfer and Tim Dalton for the source DAT (16/48)
- Thanks to Charlie Miller for Tim Dalton's DAT transfer and coordinating this effort
- Thanks to Charlie Miller for the PCM soundboard source which supplies a 0:08 patch in the beginning of "China Cat Sunflower"
- Thanks to the Oade's for the Schoeps CMC4 MK41 source which supplies some crowd and the beginning of "Scarlet Begonias" (0:28 total), a 0:29 patch in "Looks Like Rain", a 0:34 patch in Drums, as well as a 0:10 patch in "The Other One > Black Peter" transition
- Other One space included in "The Other One"
- "Smokestack Lightning" with Matt Kelly
- Pitch corrected

Mastered by Scott Clugston
February 2020

SOURCE 2 OF 32

54:01

SBD

Transferrer:

Charlie Miller

SHNID:

gd1985-03-28.137507.set1-sbd.pcm.miller.flac16

Source:

SBD -> PCM Master > Dat Clone (44.1k)

Lineage:

Dat (Sony R500) > Sound Devices 744T > Samplitude Pro X3 Suite > FLAC

Taper Notes:

View NotesNotes:
-- Thanks to David Gans for lending me his Dat
-- I was front row in front of Phil for this show

SOURCE 3 OF 32

2:21:50

SBD

Transferrer:

5.1 LPCM Surround Sound Mix (48k) by Kevin Tobin

SHNID:

gd1985-03-28.145224.5-1.tobin.flac1648

Source:

5.1 LPCM Surround Sound Mix (48k)eg: SBD > DAT

Taper Notes:

View Notes---------------------------------------------------------
- Mixed by [email protected]
- FLAC conversion 15-FEB-2019 - Trader Little Helper
- Tagged 15-FEB-2019 - Tag&Rename
---------------------------------------------------------
Brokedown House Production

SOURCE 4 OF 32

2:26:33

SBD

Transferrer:

SBD + AUD Matrix 3 Source Mix (44/16) by Kevin Tobin

SHNID:

gd1985-03-28.145221.mtx.tobin.flac1644

Source:

SBD + AUD Matrix 3 Source Mix (44/16)

Taper Notes:

View Notes---------------------------------------------------------
- Mixed by [email protected]
- FLAC conversion 15-FEB-2019 - Trader Little Helper
- Tagged 15-FEB-2019 - Tag&Rename
---------------------------------------------------------
Brokedown House Production

SOURCE 5 OF 32

2:27:50

SBD

Transferrer:

Pitch correction by acetboy

SHNID:

gd1985-03-28.141047.sbd.acetboy.flac1644

Source:

Soundboard> 1st Gen Tape>Nak Dragon>Korg Mr-1000>Audio Gate>Cool Edit>Traders Little Helper>xACT>ProTools LE>xACT; this is a fix for <a href="http://db.etree.org/shn/118304">source ID 118304</a>; see info file for details

Taper Notes:

View NotesThis is a fix for shn# 118304.
The channels were 180 degrees out of phase.  Fixed now.
The speed/pitch of the show was slow/flat.  Fixed now.
There were 2 or 3 gaps in the audio. They could be
fixed by just closing them up.  Fixed now.
There was a bit of a dc offset. Fixed now.
The stereo image has been centered up.

This great show still has a few issues.
During Drums the recording level overloaded somewhat 
especially from The Beam and the big drums on The Beast.
There's also some kinda nasty sounds coming out of
Bob's guitar amp.  Some on purpose, some not.
Bob forgets a lyric or two.

There is an earlier soundboard share of this show shn# 5313.
The speed/pitch is good and there is no phase problem but it has other issues.
Left and right channels switched in the first set.
Gaps in the waveform at all of the track starts.  The remains of earlier SBE's.
And chunks of the show are missing.  That's the way my shn files are that I grabbed
years ago from The Archive.  Back when soundboards could be had there.


acetboy 2018-02-14

SOURCE 6 OF 32

gd1985-03-28.137534.mtx.set1.photoleon.flac24

Source:

Set 1 Matrix of SBD & AUD (both FLAC/24) -> Audacity 2.0.6 -> alignment -> Dynamic Range Compression -> Normalization -> Export FLAC 24 (single file) -> Audacity -> labeled, tracked & exported (multiple files) -> FLAC 24 (level 8)

SOURCE 7 OF 32

gd1985-03-28.118304.sbd.healy.damico.flac16

Source:

Soundboard > 1st Gen Tape > Nak Dragon > Korg Mr-1000 > Audio Gate > Cool Edit > Traders Little Helper; Taper: Dan Healy; Editing: Joe D'Amico

SOURCE 8 OF 32

gd1985-03-28.set1.mtx.seamons.94544.sbeok.flac16

Source:

Matrix mix (SBD/AUD)

Taper Notes:

View Notes*Matrix*

----------------------------------------------------
SBD:

PCM > DAT > Sonic Solutions > CD

----------------------------------------------------
AUD:

Recorded by the Oade Brothers
Transferred by Doug Oade, tracked by Darrin Sacks ([email protected])

Field:
Schoeps CMC441s (90deg, 17cm) > Oade M118 > Oade mod SONY PCM-F1

Transfer:
Master PCM > DAW (via SEKD Prodif) > Wav > cdwav > Flac

---------------------------------------------------
Thank you to Alan Fink and Mark Ferguson for the SBD transfer,
and to the Oade Brothers and Darrin Sacks for the AUD transfer.

Matrix by Hunter Seamons using Soundtrack/Final Cut Pro (SHN & FLAC>AIFF>Soundtrack>Final Cut>WAV>FLAC)
September 15, 2008


Set I
-----
d1t01 Tuning
d1t02 Truckin' ->
d1t03 Smokestack Lightning* ->
d1t04 High Time
d1t05 El Paso
d1t06 Peggy-O
d1t07 Cassidy
d1t08 China Cat Sunflower ->
d1t09 I Know You Rider

* with Matthew Kelly on harp


Notes:

The reason I did not initially use the PCM SBD source for the original full-length matrix - a source I was fully aware of - was due to somewhat misleading information, but ultimately my lack of full investigation.

So here's the whole story:

I first came across PLS's matrix of this show at shnflac.net, which included a fixed version and a DTS version. Scarfire, one of my matrix heroes, commented how awful the matrix was and that it should be redone. I heartily took up the task. The reasons I did not use the PCM initially are:

1) The PCM source had an "OCD" category icon next to it (although I don't think it should), which lead me to believe there was a "better" source out there.

2) Since PLS used the Griesman SBD, a source that came after the PCM, I assumed that that was the better version, despite a previous PCM being available. I thought there must have been problems with the PCM.

3) The preview button for the PCM source at shnflac.net had "vbr" listed in the streaming info, so I assumed it was the Hi-Fi vbr streaming sound. In spite of this, I think it is actually a straight 64Kbps Lo-Fi sound - which lead me to believe the source was poor sounding, for whatever reason.

4) For the PCM source at db.etree.org, it states there is an "upgrade" in circulation, referring to the Griesman SBD (which I think is not the best descriptor). However, I think the term "upgrade" is used to refer to the SBD source that has the whole show, not just set 1. But it is NOT an "upgrade" in terms of sound.

All these things naturally threw me off - and I did not have the actual PCM on hand at the time to verify, so this was ultimately my oversight.

Coincidentally, I recently downloaded the DVD bootleg of this show on shnflac.net and noticed the music used for the audio was awesome. I gathered that it must have been the PCM source that I never got to fully consult. Luckily, some good folk were still seeding the PCM at shnflac.net (via project '85), so I got it and realized it was really all good and not a "downgrade," as it were.

IN COMPARING THIS TO THE OTHER SBD SOURCE THEN:

1) This sounds MUCH better and is SIGNIFICANTLY less harsh on the ears.

2) Coincidentally, while I initially thought set 2 from the Griesman SBD was worse than set 1 because of some higher hiss, greater scrutiny has revealed that set 1 actually sounds worse in that it is harsher on the ears (sharper sounding, like knives digging in my ears). Luckily, the PCM was available for set 1, so now these files can essentially replace set 1 in the other matrix I did. So now a nice, smooth sounding matrix is available via two sources, as inconvenient - yet convenient - that is.


My suggestion to future seeders of this matrix as a whole, if so desired, is to seed a torrent with these "replacement" tracks along with set 2 from the other matrix source. Then it will be ALL GOOD in the end.

Peace.

-Hunter

SOURCE 9 OF 32

gd1985-03-28.mtx.seamons.94484.flac16

Source:

Matrix mix (SBD/AUD)

Taper Notes:

View Notes*Matrix* 

----------------------------------------------------
SBD:

SBD> MC> DAT> CDR

EAC'd and converted on 9/17/2001 by Randy Griesman([email protected])

----------------------------------------------------
AUD:

Recorded by the Oade Brothers
Transferred by Doug Oade, tracked by Darrin Sacks ([email protected])

Field:
Schoeps CMC441s (90deg, 17cm) > Oade M118 > Oade mod SONY PCM-F1

Transfer:
Master PCM > DAW (via SEKD Prodif) > Wav > cdwav > Flac 

---------------------------------------------------
Thank you to Randy Griesman for the SBD transfer,
and to the Oade Brothers and Darrin Sacks for the AUD transfer.

Matrix by Hunter Seamons using Final Cut Pro (SHN & FLAC>AIFF>Final Cut>WAV>FLAC) 
September 10, 2008

Notes:

1) Some occasional clicks and pops in the sources, particularly during set two - I made sure these were not from my edits (my edits are 99.98% stealth style). Some of the clicks/pops were miniscule gaps squished together. 

2) Some brief cuts in the SBD during High Time, China Cat, LL Rain, and Other One, and between some songs.

3) The second set in the SBD source had a slightly different tonal quality. There was a louder, high-end hissing sound that I reduced only slightly.

4) Miniscule track gap glitches in the SBD source were removed. (I've been using this awesome technique for a while now.)

5) Last Truckin' opener: 09/28/72

6) The show appears to be seamless.

7) For mysterious purposes only, I synced this to the analogue source, which was consistently within 0.25% speed of the PCM, if not exact at times - virtually the same sound, IMO...and it moves like analogue!

8) Awesome, awesome show (unless you hate the 80's, of course).

----------------------------------
This being my 20th matrix, I'd like to thank all the good folk at bt.etree.org and shnflac.net for their support and helping me to do these matrices better since my first efforts in July '07. I especially want to thank Chris Chappell and Dan Haugh for their stellar matrix work and output, which have given me much aural inspiration. 'Till the next Trix rolls around - ENJOY!

SOURCE 10 OF 32

gd1985-03-28.dts.griesman.89043.sbeok.flac16

Source:

SBD (5313) + AUD (23443)

Taper Notes:

View NotesThis is the DTS version of the seed -- the MTX was shared previously.

SOURCE 11 OF 32

gd1985-03-28.mtx.griesman.77465.sbeok.flac16

Source:

SBD (5313) + AUD (23443)

Taper Notes:

View NotesObsolete: 89074 fixes significant flaw

SOURCE 12 OF 32

gd85-03-28.sbd.griesman.5313.sbeok.shnf

Source:

SBD> MC> DAT> CDR

Taper Notes:

View Notescomplete; SBD> MC> DAT> CDR; via Randy Griesman; dropouts at d1t7 0:10, d2t1 0:32

SOURCE 13 OF 32

gd85-03-28.sbd-set1.fink.357.sbeok.shnf

Source:

SBD PCM > DAT > Sonic Solutions > CD

Taper Notes:

View Notesset 1; SBD PCM > DAT > Sonic Solutions > CD; via Alan Fink, Mark Ferguson

SOURCE 14 OF 32

Scott Clugston, Charlie Miller

SHNID:

gd1985-03-28.167093.beyer.m160.vita.miller.clugston.flac2496

Source:

Jim Vita's Master (FOB) Audience Cassettes; Beyer M160 mics > Sony D5M (Maxell XLII-S)

Lineage:

Master Cassettes (Nakamichi CR-7A)> Tascam DA-3000 (.wav 24-bit/96k) > Adobe Audition CC 2024 > TLH flac2496

Taper Notes:

View NotesNotes:
- Thanks to Jim Vita (RIP) for the master cassettes
- Thanks to Charlie Miller for the transfer and coordinating this effort
- Thanks to Rob Hunt and Ted Mattes for the Sennheiser 441 source which supplies a 0:05 patch in "China Cat Sunflower", as well as a 0:23 patch in "Drums"
- Pitch verified

Mastered by Scott Clugston
February 2024

SOURCE 15 OF 32

Scott Clugston, Charlie Miller

SHNID:

gd1985-03-28.167092.beyer.m160.vita.miller.clugston.flac1648

Source:

Jim Vita's Master (FOB) Audience Cassettes; Beyer M160 mics > Sony D5M (Maxell XLII-S)

Lineage:

Master Cassettes (Nakamichi CR-7A)> Tascam DA-3000 (.wav 24-bit/96k) > Adobe Audition CC 2024 > TLH flac2496

Taper Notes:

View NotesNotes:
- Thanks to Jim Vita (RIP) for the master cassettes
- Thanks to Charlie Miller for the transfer and coordinating this effort
- Thanks to Rob Hunt and Ted Mattes for the Sennheiser 441 source which supplies a 0:05 patch in "China Cat Sunflower", as well as a 0:23 patch in "Drums"
- Pitch verified

Mastered by Scott Clugston
February 2024

SOURCE 16 OF 32

Rob, Eaton, Scott Clugston, Charlie Miller

SHNID:

gd1985-03-38.163428.akg451.neumann.u87.blend.eaton.miller.clugston.flac2496

Source:

Rob Eaton's Master (FOB) Audience Cassettes; (2) AKG 451's w/ CK8 shotguns (Left + Right) + (1)Neumann U87 (Center) blend > Nakamichi 550

Lineage:

Master Cassettes (Nakamichi Dragon) > Pro Tools 12 > .wav 24/96 > Adobe Audition 2022 > TLH2496

Taper Notes:

View NotesNotes:
- Thanks to Rob Eaton for the recording, as well as the transfer and harddrive
- Thanks to Charlie Miller for coordinating this effort
- Thanks to the Oade's for the Schoeps CMC4 MK41 source which supplies the beginning of "China Cat Sunflower (0:06 total),as well as a0:07 in "Drums"
- Pitch corrected

Mastered by Scott Clugston
August 2022

SOURCE 17 OF 32

Rob, Eaton, Scott Clugston, Charlie Miller

SHNID:

gd1985-03-38.163427.akg451.neumann.u87.blend.eaton.miller.clugston.flac1648

Source:

Rob Eaton's Master (FOB) Audience Cassettes; (2) AKG 451's w/ CK8 shotguns (Left + Right) + (1)Neumann U87 (Center) blend > Nakamichi 550

Lineage:

Master Cassettes (Nakamichi Dragon) > Pro Tools 12 > .wav 24/96 > Adobe Audition 2022 > TLH2496

Taper Notes:

View NotesNotes:
- Thanks to Rob Eaton for the recording, as well as the transfer and harddrive
- Thanks to Charlie Miller for coordinating this effort
- Thanks to the Oade's for the Schoeps CMC4 MK41 source which supplies the beginning of "China Cat Sunflower (0:06 total),as well as a0:07 in "Drums"
- Pitch corrected

Mastered by Scott Clugston
August 2022

SOURCE 18 OF 32

2:25:10

Taper:

Rob Hunt and Ted Mattes

Transferrer:

Scott Clugston and Charlie Miller

SHNID:

gd1985-03-28.149306.senn441.hunt.mattes.miller.clugston.flac2496

Source:

Rob Hunt and Ted Mattes' Master Audience Cassettes; Sennheiser 441 mics > Sony D5M

Lineage:

Cassette Master (Nakamichi CR-7A) > Tascam DA-3000 (DSF 1-bit/5.6 MHz)> dBpoweramp (24/96) > Adobe Audition CC 2020 > TLH flac2496

Taper Notes:

View NotesNotes:
- Thanks to Rob Hunt and Ted Mattes for the master cassettes
- Thanks to Charlie Miller for the transfer and coordinating this effort
- Thanks to the Oade's for the Schoeps CMC4 MK41 source which supplies an 0:08 patch in "Drums"
- "Smokestack Lightning" with Matt Kelly
- Pitch verified

Mastered by Scott Clugston
March 2020

SOURCE 19 OF 32

2:25:10

Taper:

Rob Hunt and Ted Mattes

Transferrer:

Scott Clugston and Charlie Miller

SHNID:

gd1985-03-28.149305.senn441.hunt.mattes.miller.clugston.flac1648

Source:

Rob Hunt and Ted Mattes' Master Audience Cassettes; Sennheiser 441 mics > Sony D5M

Lineage:

Cassette Master (Nakamichi CR-7A) > Tascam DA-3000 (DSF 1-bit/5.6 MHz)> dBpoweramp (24/96) > Adobe Audition CC 2020 > TLH flac2496

Taper Notes:

View NotesNotes:
- Thanks to Rob Hunt and Ted Mattes for the master cassettes
- Thanks to Charlie Miller for the transfer and coordinating this effort
- Thanks to the Oade's for the Schoeps CMC4 MK41 source which supplies an 0:08 patch in "Drums"
- "Smokestack Lightning" with Matt Kelly
- Pitch verified

Mastered by Scott Clugston
March 2020

SOURCE 20 OF 32

2:28:32

SHNID:

gd1985-03-28.165009.nak304.thomas.miller.clugston.flac2496

SOURCE 21 OF 32

2:28:32

SHNID:

gd1985-03-28.165008.nak304.thomas.miller.clugston.flac1648

SOURCE 22 OF 32

2:21:52

Taper:

Executive Crew: Tom Pinney; Kyle Holbrook; JJ Hance; Eric Britt

Transferrer:

Kyle Holbrook

SHNID:

gd1985-03-28.152068.beyerm88.holbrook.flac2448

Source:

Source: Master AUDCA: Beyer M88's XY > Sony TCD5M in line > Maxell MX 90s No Dolby -lead deck Location: 40 feet from stage DFC, 8 ft up

Lineage:

Taper Notes:

View Notes* with Matt Kelly on harmonica
// tape flip

SOURCE 23 OF 32

2:21:52

Taper:

Executive Crew: Tom Pinney; Kyle Holbrook; JJ Hance; Eric Britt

Transferrer:

Kyle Holbrook

SHNID:

gd1985-03-28.152067.beyerm88.holbrook.flac1644

Source:

Source: Master AUDCA: Beyer M88's XY > Sony TCD5M in line > Maxell MX 90s No Dolby -lead deck Location: 40 feet from stage DFC, 8 ft up

Lineage:

Taper Notes:

View Notes* with Matt Kelly on harmonica
// tape flip

SOURCE 24 OF 32

2:14:21

SHNID:

gd1985-03-28.149979.dyche.flac16

SOURCE 25 OF 32

gd1985-03-28.124745.chasingwilma.flac24

Source:

lineage: sennheiser 441 (fob)> d-5> mc> sony tc we435> sony pcm m-10 24bit/96khz> soundforge> cdwave> traders little helper encoding option 8; conversion rate: 96000/24 bit

SOURCE 26 OF 32

gd1985-03-28.nak300.morris.106785.flac16

Source:

Nakamichi CM-300 x2 > Cassette Master

Lineage:

Cassette Master (Nakamichi DR-1) > Korg MR-1000 (1-bit/5.6MHz) > Audiogate (1-bit/5.6MHz > 16-bit/44.1KHz) > cdwav (edits)

Taper Notes:

View NotesTape flips spliced using Soundforge 9.0 in China Cat (at 0:09) and drums (at 6:51).
Recorded by Bob Morris. Thanks to Sam for help.

SOURCE 27 OF 32

Dave Barfield and David Lane

Transferrer:

Dave Barfield

SHNID:

gd1985-03-28.nak300.barfield-lane.103184.flac24

Source:

nakamichi 300/cp4 (ots 12') > tcd5m (tdk mar, +dolby) > master cassette

Lineage:

master cassette > tcd5m (original recorder +dolby) > minime (24/96) > sd744t > audacity > xact (flac24)

SOURCE 28 OF 32

gd1985-03-28.mtx.fix-shnid-77465.griesman.89074.flac16

View NotesShortly after 77465 was circulated in 2005, its creator learned of a serious
problem with one of the tracks, d1t04. A replacement track was circulated,
but does not seem to have made it into the etree database or into wide
circulation.

This new seed fixes 77465 by providing the "fixed" version
of d1t04 along with the rest of the tracks. If you already have 77465,
you only need the new txt and fingerprint files and the one new track and
you will have this seed.

SteveSw, 12-15-2007

SOURCE 29 OF 32

gd1985-03-28.nak300.damico.87226.sbeok.flac16

SOURCE 30 OF 32

gd1985-03-28.nak300.bmandel.78436.sbeok.shnf

Source:

Nakamichi 300 Shotguns CP4's & Sony TCD5M

Lineage:

Master Casssette Transfer: Nakamichi BX300-> Macintosh ->Peak Bias->JAM->cdr->EAC->MKW->shn

Taper Notes:

View Notes*with Matt Kelly

SOURCE 31 OF 32

Mark McCue, Adam, Monica, Johnny Kelly & Davey the beeker meade.

Transferrer:

Alex Ford

SHNID:

gd1985-03-28.nak700.mccue.ford.34839.sbeok.flac16

Source:

MAC: (FOB) 2 Nakamichi 700s [modified w/ plexiglass shock mounts@] > Sony D5 > TDK MA 90s

Lineage:

MAC>Nakamichi CD2 [azimuth adjusted]>RCA>Audiophile 2496>CEP 2.0>CD Wave Editor>TLH>FLAC16

Taper Notes:

View NotesNotes:

- * with Mathew Kelly
- d1t03 (Smokestack Lightnin') minor static @ 0:06.
- @ NAk 700s modified by Tracy from Pittsburgh, PA w/ plexiglass shock mounts. Thank you very much. 
  Nice craftsmanship on the modification. 
- 3 photos of mics and Mark McCue included with this fileset.  
- Much thanks to McCue & friends for another beautiful recording!

Mic Config: pointed at the stacks

Location: FOB, 20-25 feet from the stage, dfc.

SOURCE 32 OF 32

Doug Oade - Darren Sacks

SHNID:

gd85-03-28.oade-schoeps.sacks.23443.sbeok.flacf

Source:

Schoeps CMC441s (90deg, 17cm) > Oade M118 > Oade mod SONY PCM-F1

Lineage:

Master PCM > DAW (via SEKD Prodif) > Wav > cdwav > Flac

Taper Notes:

View NotesSchoeps CMC441s (90deg, 17cm) > Oade M118 > Oade mod SONY PCM-F1; Transfer:Master PCM > DAW (via SEKD Prodif) > Wav > cdwav > Flac 
Transferred by Doug Oade, traced by Darrin Sacks ([email protected])